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Got a question... COMPARE Nutrisystem TO NUTRISYSTEM? Many thanks for any response. Another question I got... Please read the article below first, especially the first section..

Http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...transformation.

I've been pondering the articles point about temporarily becoming an a-hole while you are making a body transformation. I have been seeing some of those attributes surfacing in myself. One of the more obvious areas is in my work. I deal with a lot of patients who are obese and/or have obstructive sleep apnea. I have both of those problems myself and I'm doing something about it. The vast majority of my patients have a laundry list of excuses why they can't lose weight or why they can't use their CPAP machines.



Then I will read posts on here about people doing great and falling off the wagon after a week or complaining about the food, and I have similar thoughts. The funny thing is up until a few months ago that was me, I was the guy who couldn't stick to a plan for more than 2 days without hitting Taco Bell..

I'm not sure if a little success give you an air of superiority or if I'm just getting back the confidence that I used to have, but years of obesity took away..

This confidence I'm gaining is starting to snowball and will undoubtedly affect other areas of my life..

Anyway I'm kind of rambling here, but if what I've said has struck a chord please feel free to discuss...

asked Apr 21 at 09:16

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Good question... I dunno what is the answer to your question. I'll do some research in Google and get back to you if I discover an anything. You should email the people at Nutrisystem as they probably know..

answered Apr 21 at 10:34

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Reid
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No, I was a jerk before NS..less of a jerk with each pound shed..

answered Apr 21 at 10:44

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Harley
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There are lots of parallels between this advice and the Nutrisystem program. We keep food logs, eat a balanced diet, on the boards we surround ourselves with like minded people...the key point you picked up on was the initial and sustaining motivation. The article talks about getting mad...For me it was getting scared that I was going to ruin my health. After having seen my Dad die from COPD, I was not going to let that happen to me..No Way! I do now look at overweight people and say to myself...too bad for them....but I don't feel superior.....

answered Apr 21 at 12:24

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I'm sorry and ashamed, but I do feel superior! Saddly, I'm telling myself, that was me. I want to smack others into doing what I've done. That's now..

However, I've lost 100 pounds 3 times in my life (this being the 3rd) and I don't plan on gaining it back. Nutrisystem has showed me the way. I see the light and refuse to revert to my old habits..

Nuff said. Guess I'm an ASS or a jerk...

answered Apr 21 at 13:00

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Cade
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I believe the mad part. The jerk part Im not so sure about. Its been happening to me a bit I suppose. At 30 years old, my pre diet social activities involved going out to eat with friends and getting drunk. When one of my friends innocently forgot about my diet and invited out for pizza and binge drinking I quickly snapped "Im on a diet, Im TIRED of being a FATASS!" So I guess thats some anger. Then I have another friend who's overweight and she's always off and on her diet.

Normally Id just think "she loves her food", but yesterday as she tore into an order of Taco Bell in front of me I couldn't help from but think "what a disgusting glutton".

Then again all of those things could just be me realizing what I want and don't want to be, and being conscious of my own goals...

answered Apr 21 at 14:31

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Avery
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A lot of accurate observations in this article. I have always been a jerk. Especially, at the beginning of this process, I became more of one. It helped me in staying focused and doing this for me. I also benefited from anger, almost entirely directed at myself for letting me get to where I had gotten. And I have always been disgusted by fat people, most notably, myself.

So it is clearly not an issue of self-loathing. Interesting read...

answered Apr 21 at 14:48

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Disco, you always share some thought provoking information - thanks! I was turned off to weight loss by a doctor who was a jerk. I think you will be the kind of doctor - who will recognize the challenges your patients face - but also recognize that it can be done. Leading by example is the answer. I don't think it's necessary to be a jerk - it is necessary to make the kind of decision that will not be compromised. Once you've made that kind of decision, you don't suffer fools lightly - some might take that as being a jerk. To me it's just knowing what you're trying to accomplish and being determined to get it done..

Keep up the good work!..

answered Apr 21 at 15:31

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Ricky
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Whenever I go on a diet and start to deprive myself of what I was used to my body has to adjust and I go through a sort of withdrawal. Where in, I do become a royal b!tch. Everyone has noticed. lol..

answered Apr 21 at 16:40

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Ask an ex-smoker how superior they feel when they are around people who smoke..

Well, since you asked, I often feel so superior I tell them to put it out or move. If they don't, I do, but only after a rather lengthy lecture. I've been smoke free for 37 years and fat free since last October..

I don't have the answer to this question, though. Why do I treat fat people (like I use to be) with more compassion than I do smokers? I don't tell fat people to stop eating. I don't not want to be with them, unless, of course, they are fat AND smoke...

answered Apr 21 at 17:58

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Because people choose to smoke. I never have smoked (unless you count that one time when I was 4 and found a butt on a campground) - so that's 33 years without smoking..

Find a person who has gone more than a few days without eating and you'll find a dead person or someone in a terrible situation..

You can live without smoking, but you can't live without food. That's what really pisses me off. I've decided that food is just like any other addiction, except you HAVE to use it or you die..

How many alcoholics or drug addicts would be successful if they HAD to drink or do drugs 3 times a day? Answer: NONE.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Great thread - now I am more pissed off than ever. Screw all those people who think it's easy. Screw all those people who haven't experienced what we have. We're better because we're trying..

I wish you all much success - you deserve it!.

/rant off..

answered Apr 21 at 18:07

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Emmanuel
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WTG Jack - Happy Birthday! There is no reason for us to go back to obesity and it's ravages!..

answered Apr 21 at 19:39

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Bailey
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Happy b-day Jack. But what a lame present..

I want a boat that will do 140 knots per hour or a sports car that'll do 0-60 in less than 5 seconds...

answered Apr 21 at 21:15

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I often feel like Jack reported. Happier and more easy-going. A lot more self-confident. But... I can't believe how I perceive all the fat people around me now. I keep thinking "they should do something about that".



Gordon..

answered Apr 21 at 21:46

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Caleb
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I don't feel like a jerk. People are asking me what is going on with me and I am becoming a walking commercial. I try to tell anyone who'll listen that this plan is the real deal..

I find that I am actually in a better mood, because I don't feel like somebody is taking away things from me (food). I feel like I am gaining big time. I am gaining confidence, self-satisfaction and more years on my life..

This, to me, is the perfect example of addition by subtraction..

I feel like the Dallas Cowboys. I am losing my T.O. and am only going to prosper in the future..

answered Apr 21 at 22:06

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Nicole
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Happy Birthday Jack!.

We all like to feel superior. Losing the weight just gives us one more thing to feel that way about. When I see someone that obviously needs to lose a lot of weight, I want to stop them and tell them all about Nutrisystem, how easy it is and how it doesn't really cost any more than they are spending now on food. I won't though because I know how I would have reacted if someone had done that to me and it wouldn't have been pretty...

answered Apr 21 at 22:22

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Great article. I think the jerk thing is perception. I don't particularly think I'm being a jerk by focusing on myself, skipping social events, throwing out snacks someone else snuck in the house, etc., but others probably think I'm being a jerk. Screw them. As one who IS back with tail between legs after a year and gaining almost half back, the only thing I regret now was not staying a jerk. And anger? Oh yeah, but mostly internalized.



Superiority - abso-freakin-lutely! I love when someone asks "how are you doing it?" and I say "diet and exercise" and can almost see them droop as the hope of a quick and easy solution fades. To quote the article "Quit trying to find an easier way, and do what works.".

Happy birthday Jack, your gift to yourself was the new you, congrats!..

answered Apr 21 at 23:05

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Great subject....

Do I feel superior (or at least more than I did when I was FAT)?.

I don't think so, but I am sure that people of all sorts of opinions of me that I am not aware of..

I do know one thing...I am happier!.

I feel better both physically and about myself then I have for several years. I have gone through this type of weight loss three time also and know that this method is something I can stick with, which makes me feel good..

I do find myself looking at other over-weight people and wishing I could tell them how simple this has been (FOR ME), but I realize that everyone needs to come to that point themselves..

BTW...Happy Birthday Jack..

Clark..

answered Apr 22 at 00:43

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Fiona
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This thread has given me a lot to chew on this morning...which is good, because if I chew on this instead of food it's not something that will take me off plan..

I think I need to be a bigger jerk...to myself..

I feel I need to get more serious about my workouts and really push myself more at the gym than I have been for the past two months. Just showing up three times a week isn't the entire expectation I set for myself, so tonight I need to up my game a bit more than I've been doing...

answered Apr 22 at 02:23

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"Jerk" is a subjective phrase. For instance, a jerk to me is anyone who doesn't see the brilliance of my opinion..

No, really though, it is hard not to feel something like "if I can do it, why can't you?" when you see people making the same mistakes that got us where we are/were. Superior? Damn straight! Not because I am any better than anyone else but that I did something about it. It doesn't make you a jerk to think uncomplimentary things about someone, it does make you a jerk when you let those thoughts come out of your mouth. IMHO, of course - don't want to be a jerk!..

answered Apr 22 at 03:21

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I loved the article. Have I become a Jerk.?.?.yes, I believe I have..

I guess I'm not polite about saying "no" to ice cream or beer or sticking with my pre-prepared lunch or dinner instead of heading out to eat with friends..

I've said "no" so much in the past year, I'm not nice about it any more..

I've worked hard to get here and stay here. To the point that it's become mechanical for me over the past year. Eat right, work out, log your progress....That's it..

So, yes. I think the article helped me see some good/bad truths about the new me...

answered Apr 22 at 04:56

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Exactly!!.

For me, in the beginning the "no's" came with an apologetic "sorry, I just started Nutrisystem and I have to stick to the plan". They all would take a look at me and nod understandingly... (ouch). Now the "no's" just come out as "NO" and no further explaining is involved. They either get it or they don't...screw them. I'm in this for me...and it seems lately as though I am very intense and dedicated to my goal..

So...am I becoming a jerk?? Probably, but I don't think I am..

answered Apr 22 at 06:14

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Uote=jack.bauer;3189458]When I began the program back in January, I fully expected to become a raving lunatic while I starved myself into losing weight for my 55th birthday. Not only do I feel much saner now, I can honestly say I am on some kind of consistent high, and find myself smiling much more, and certainly more patient and easy-going than I was when I carried all of that excess poundage. I never experienced any moodiness or irritation, and, quite frankly, found it easy to control my hunger and appetite with the smaller-portions-more-mealtimes plan. Today is my 55th birthday, I have reached my goal of being under 200 pounds, and have every intention to stay here forever. I just hope I am not one of those fly-by-nighters that leaves the program after a few good months, and has to come back next year with my tail between my legs. For now, though, I must say I am extremely pleased with NutriSystem, I enjoy all of the food, and have no desire to eat an entire pepperoni pizza for dinner, and a bowl of ice cream for dessert..

Nothing tastes as good as thin feels.

Do I feel superior? No, just luckier to have finally found the answer. Happy Birthday to ME! My gift to myself this year was an order of Walden Farms salad dressing that is on it's way to my doorstep. No cake. No ice cream. No Pizza. Just No calories, No fat, No carbs, and No sugar on my salad.

[/quote].

Diane is circulating pictures..

She wants to share the "New Jack.Bauer.".

And I don't blame her a bit. You set a goal and accomplished it on schedule. Yeah, you had help. But, in truth, we never do anything alone anyway. Even were I to find myself on a desert island with nobody to turn to for survival, I would owe my parents, my Boy Scout leaders and the program that taught me the things I would probably need. <br> <br So, having help is not a weakness.

You, sir, are a very strong person..

Congratulations.

!..

answered Apr 22 at 07:38

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I think all of you should STFU..

It's funny how, if you're commiting slow suicide by eating yourself to death, you're the friendly, lovable fat guy. But as soon as you put your fleshy foot down and express that you're determined to improve yourself, you're perceived as a jerk. As the farmer said to the cow, others just need to get over it. And if I would have been more of a self-centered prick, i.e. having better self esteem and view of myself, I wouldn't have let myself get there in the first place. So jerk it is...

answered Apr 22 at 08:03

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Emilio
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All of these have been very good posts. I do not think I have been rude to anyone about not eating or what they are eating. I have notice I have been finding ways to avoid things that could lead me to over indulgence (sp?). Some of my friends may think that I am somehow being rude, not hanging out with them like I used to...

answered Apr 22 at 09:27

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Anastasia
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I don't have the social issues some of you face. I was easily the fattest person I ate with on a regular basis. I ate more of everything, more frequently and faster than anyone else around me..

I definitely feel superior to my old self and those around me who lost but regained...

answered Apr 22 at 10:44

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Danielle
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I feel a bit like some people are trying to sabotage my weight loss, so I don't feel bad when I act like a jerk...

answered Apr 22 at 11:21

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Christian
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I hear you! I have some friends at work that occasionally invite me out to lunch. We go maybe once per month...sometimes twice. I told them last week that I started Nutrisystem and magically they've invited me to lunch 4 times! I don't know if they're really doing it on purpose, but the first time or two I was very apologetic and nice about it...but I'm quickly losing patience...

answered Apr 22 at 11:29

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I have been a jerk for almost 73 years and enjoy it. Besides being a jerk, on my 72nd birthday I received a diploma from the grumpy old man training school. Can't wait to hit 75 when I can become an officiall dirty old man instead of having to do it under the table..

Don't stop using the cpap machine, it does you more good than you can imagine. I quit using my bipap a couple years ago and had two heart attacks within a month. I went back to it and now I cannot sleep without it. I find the sound of air running through the hose is a relaxing thing like listening to the surf...

answered Apr 22 at 11:45

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