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Question I have... Does Medifast Gordonii works as it is advertised to takes pound off.? Thanks in advance for any answer. Another question I got... Welcome to the home of the SHORTIES all those vertically challenged MFers..

We are newbies and goals met successes, young and well seasoned, single and married or divorced, we are diverse. We cover every area except the tall ones - you know the ones, the overhead bins in airplanes, the top shelf in the grocery store, the light bulb in the dark closet, those elusive lofty places.

Some people call us.


, and we actually think that is a compliment, as we are.

Slim Hotties On the Road To Intelligent Eating and Stability.

We have to deal with special issues due to our height (or lack there of), and we can really relate to each other. We like that saying, The best things come in small packages, and people often say that about us we are small but mighty! We also tend to be feisty, daring, passionate, vocal, and we have a lot of love to give..

We are always welcoming new SHORTIES to the group (and anyone else that wants to hang out with us), so come on in, introduce yourself, let's get acquainted, pull up a chair and sit a spell! We're here to help each other as we travel together down that road to health!.

Heres our banner, so you can add it to your signature. Just copy & paste, then edit it to delete all the little * in the text:.


The Questions of the Day:.

"Creation Sunday" What is something you plan to do this week to make a change in your life?.

"Measuring Monday" What are your measurements this week (bust, waist, hips) and your total inches, all measurements, lost since you started?.

"Tempation Tuesday" What temptation did you face this week & how did you handle it?.

"Wonderful Wednesday" What victories are you celebrating this week?.

"Telling Thursday" Anything you want to tell about areas that you are less than happy with your decisions, behaviors, strength, etc. - where can we help you?.

"Favorite Friday" What was a new food that you tried this week that you consider one of your Favs now?.

"Sharing Saturday" Whatever you want to share with the group....

To see August's posts go to:..

asked Apr 30 at 08:17

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Of course! but you might wanna make sure and wait for someone else to confirm this as I am not sure. Better yet, why don't you contact the Medifast guys because they can answer you better...

answered Apr 30 at 09:09

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I'm here! Where is everyone? Granted I am a day early....

I just saw the questions of the day sooo.....

"Tempation Tuesday" What temptation did you face this week & how did you handle it?.

I faced a major temptation last night. (read my blog for all the details) My friend cooked us dinner and there was french bread, white wine, mashed potatoes and chocolate chip cookies involved. So much temptation at once!! I had 2 bites of bread. But said no to everything else!! I just kept telling myself that I have almost lost 10lbs, and a glass of wine/cookie isn't worth it...

answered Apr 30 at 09:25

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Thanks for moving us.



Still have the migraine. It's making work difficult but meh. It's been worse..


, good job avoiding that stuff, but next time no BLTs! (bite lick taste) You know you can do better!.

I'll have to get back to the old thread to catch up later with everyone else...

answered Apr 30 at 10:53

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Another shortie here - not even 5 feet but I say I am 'cause it's just easier..

My weight is all in my middle which makes it worse for us short gals when we gain weight!.


answered Apr 30 at 11:54

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! Glad to have you with us. Pull up a stool and have a seat. This group is silly, serious and fun..

I tell people I'm 4'11" and shrinking......

answered Apr 30 at 12:03

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Welcome Stasia! Can't wait to hear about your successes!..

answered Apr 30 at 12:33

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MT Cup.

- is your head feeling any better?.


- thanks for getting the new thread started..


- I had so much to do yesterday, that I didn't have any time to post, or anything to say. Still don't have much to say. I did call the hotel where I'll be staying in October, and found out that for $5 per day, they will put a microwave in the room. It's only 4 nights, so I'm thinking the $20 would be worth it - especially since I average about 3 Medifast meals per day that use a microwave!..

answered Apr 30 at 14:02

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Thanks for asking.


, my head is feeling better today. Still lingering headache but it's much much better. For that price, it's probably worth having the micro...

answered Apr 30 at 15:12

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Welcome Stasia!.


Glad to hear that your migraine is better. I don't get real migraines, but I do get migraine-like headaches when my neck is out of alignment. Not fun. They seem to just suck the life right out of you. Thank goodness for good chiropractors!..

answered Apr 30 at 15:22

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Wow, just realized that I was experiencing an amazing NSV - I was siting at my desk at work - and was making a phone call - and realized that I had my legs crossed (at the thighs)! That hasn't happened in YEARS! I've been an ankle crosser for the last 10 years at least..

How cool is that?..

answered Apr 30 at 16:25

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Congratulations on your cool NSV, gkrism! I still remember the first time I could cross my legs at the thigh. Now I have to stop myself from doing so (it's hard on my back)...

answered Apr 30 at 17:24

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Another not so NSV - more like an "ah ha" moment. I discovered that the reason I haven't been able to see well recently is due to the fact that my contact lenses were switched - Left lens in the right eye, and right lens in the left eye..

Makes for problems when one is supposed to correct for nearsighteded and the other for short-distance reading...

answered Apr 30 at 18:55

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Hi Shorties - wow, September already!.

I am still around but getting ready to go on vacation, so extra busy at home and work. I have pretty much done my "to-do" list at work, just have a lot to do at home still. So now I am just putzing at work trying to hurry up the day so I can get home and get the real work done! Friday I work all day, then go straight to my Moms for the night. Then Mom and I head out early Sat. to Chestertown, MD for a 5k run for me and walk for Mom, then from there to Bethany Beach, DE - yea, finally getting to the Beach this summer! It looks like Hurricane Earl won't hit shore, and even if it does it will be by our area by Friday, so our weather looks most excellent! At the Beach through Wednesday, then back. I'll have no computer while away - so I'll tell everyone to have a great weekend and Labor Day now!.

MT - glad your head is feeling better!.

Gkrism - great NSV! and oops on the contacts! Oh, and $20 for a microwave for 4 days sounds like a good idea to me!.

Shelly - thanks for getting us moved into the new month!.

MommaMel - hello!.

Stasia - Welcome!.

Everyone have a great week and see you when I get back!..

answered Apr 30 at 20:22

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Wow - it is quiet all over the Boards, hopefully things will pick up again after the Holiday weekend..

I am excited and nervous about the 5K tomorrow, but mostly excited! And looking forward to seeing the Beach/Ocean. Our room at the Beach is 2nd floor Ocean Front! I was 138.2 this morning (aack - I typed 183.2 the first time), so my goal is to be that or less when I get back from the Beach. When I get back I am going to go 100% back on 5&1 until 10/1 and get at least to my original goal of 135, I have been skirting around 135 too much. Then DH is going to start Transition on 10/1 and I'll do it correctly with him this time! DH has lost 135 pounds now! Oh, I just realized he has lost what I weigh (or will weigh soon), WOW!.

All the Shorties have a great Holiday weekend. I am out until Wednesday, so I'll "see" you when I get back!..

answered Apr 30 at 21:45

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- have a happy run!.

And all of the rest of you shorties, have a happy labor day. Is that an oxymoron?.

AFM - I called the hotel to request the microwave for $5 per night (only $20 total) and he said, well, do you want a refrigerator too? He said he'd put that in at no charge! So I'm getting a fridge and a microwave for $20. I'll be set!.

I'll be able to get to a store (somehow) and buy some bottled water and diet coke (yes, I'm still drinking diet coke) and keep them cold...

answered Apr 30 at 21:50

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Hello Shorties,.

Hope all is well. Thanks for moving us to a new thread. Always great to have a "fresh start.".

So, my first week of transition continues to be more psychological than physicalthe hungries are still with me. I am doing my best to drink (with water, decaf tea, and more water..) away. We'll see when I weigh intomorrow what's the deal. I may need more time at this level to get comfortable..

In the meantime, I wonder if losing weight has been correlated with losing one's inhibitions. I have to share that today I did something I only thought about in the past, but have not actually donecomfortablyuntil today..

DH has been busy this week. Nevertheless, we scheduled some couple's time on Wednesday morning and I was looking forward to chatting, snuggling etc. His work got in the way and had to cancel Wednesday morning, but promised that he would find time this morningFriday. So while I was disappointed for the moment, I also had something to look forward to. Well, this morning came and went, and again he had to postpone our "date." In cancelling this morning, he asked if we might have time this afternoon. So there I was, exercised, showered, house neat as a pin and STILL WAITING.

By now I can feel the irritation in my head. He wanted us to spend a "quick" 35 minutes together. I acquiesed and graciously accepted a foot massage. Lo and behold, he proceeded to yawn every minute throughout the first 10 minutes of the massage..

I became really irritated after the 10th yawn and kindly, but clearly shared that while I was excited about our time together, this stolen moment" was not working for me; I sugggested he go to take a nap and get refreshed. I also gently expressed my irritation with the three "delayed" dates..

As I sit and type this to you, I admit that I really surprised with myself. In the past, my response would have been to seek solace in food/sweets/carbohydrates. Instead, I am proud that I felt comfortable enough to express myself in a kind and loving way. While this may not be new to anyone else, I am reminded of the power of expressing one's self versus stuffing down her feelings in the hopes of not "hurting" her mate's feelings..

What an insightful experience!.

Happy 3-day weekend Shorties...

answered Apr 30 at 22:52

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Hey Shorties. Down another 0.5 today. Not great, but still a loss..


- wtg!.

I've started the Beck Diet Solution - on day 3. Interesting to start the book after being on Medifast for 17 weeks....

But I want to keep the weight off - the pounds that I've already lost, and the ones that I'm going to lose..

Have a happy Labor Day weekend!..

answered Apr 30 at 23:48

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, I'm with you. I have learned to speak my mind instead of avoiding any confrontations and just medicating my bad feelings with food. I've found that being a bit more honest in how I feel with the people I love has actually helped the relationships. It has surprised and shocked my family because I have always had the habit of running away. My siblings have come clean and said they like the change even though it shocked them and they wished I had started sticking up for myself decades ago. I think it's better now, at least now I can speak my mind politely and without hurting feelings.


, congratulations! Any loss is better than no loss. I had plenty of no loss weeks. I too started the Beck book when I was a couple of month's into the plan. I will say that what I learned in that book is helping me with Transition..

Happy holiday to the rest of our shorties. I hope you all have a great weekend...

answered May 01 at 00:10

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I saw a link to an interesting article on BMI - here it is in case you haven't read it..


Basically I've been shooting for a goal that was in the middle of the 30 pound BMI range for my height. Based on this article, maybe I would be better shooting for 7 pounds higher - it would still be in the range, but towards the upper end, and might be more sustainable..

For now, I'll keep my goal the same, but will re-evaluate as I get closer. That means I'm either 37.5 pounds away (1/2 way) or 30.5 pounds away (55% of the way)...

answered May 01 at 01:16

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I've never put much stock in the whole BMI BS. It may be somewhat accurate for a couch potato, but grossly inaccurate for anyone with an ounce of muscle or strong bones. Nowhere does it take into account the person's waist measurement, body frame, muscle mass, or bone density. Use the BMI numbers as a.


General guide, but no more than that...

answered May 01 at 02:17

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I never understood the difference between BMI and the old weight/height charts..

Aren't they basically the same? And yet all the medical professionals tell us the old charts are obsolete and the BMI is what's important...

answered May 01 at 03:15

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Well, I think I must be healing - we'll see what the surgeon says on Wednesday when I go in. But today I haven't been wearing the brace for my arm, and actually went to the grocery store without it..

I had a pretty nice NSV - was able to get in the pool (lovely temperature both inside and outside of the pool) and wore my new size 12 swimsuit. Spent some time swimming and using my left arm like a real arm (rather than a useless appendage), and some time sunbathing on a floater lounge chair..

This was especially nice since I've barely been able to use the pool all summer since I couldn't get the cast wet..

Hope you are all having a wonderful OP Labor Day, without too much Labor!..

answered May 01 at 03:21

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It's too dang quiet around here!.

What's everybody up to so far this week? I'm enjoying the gradually cooling weather and looking forward to getting outside for my exercise...

answered May 01 at 04:38

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Work has been a nightmare and spending my off hours getting the house ready for winter. Keeping the garbage man gainfully employed. LOL..

answered May 01 at 05:54

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Well, I just got back from seeing the surgeon. Unfortunately, the progress report on my arm is less than stellar, and he wants to go back in and pull out some of the pins that he inserted a couple of months ago..

He will still leave in the plates and screws. He thinks that this will allow me more range of motion and give me the ability to go palms up and palms down without compensating by throwing around my elbow and shoulder!.

So, thankfully, he does want to do it this calendar year, but even earlier than I had hoped. However, since I won't make real progress until the pins are out, I see his point. At least by doing it in 2010, it'll still be "covered" under my annual out-of-pocket maximum..

Oh, and as far as weight losses - it's not "official" until Saturday (and who knows what it'll be by then), but I may have reached my next goal to "lose 20% of my body weight" today...

answered May 01 at 06:38

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Congratulations, gkrism on the 20%. Awesome goal to reach!.

Yay and boo for the progress report. At least he's trying to save you money and help you make progress. Just like anything else, the good always comes with the bad. I'm hoping this will have a much quicker recovery time?..

answered May 01 at 07:04

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There's something very satisfying about getting rid of the junk and clutter that invariably collects in our homes. I'll be starting on my own fall cleaning and purge soon...

answered May 01 at 08:17

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Congrats on the 20% loss! I hit 10% this week and wow, I can feel a difference when I'm doing my walking, etc. We will keep happy thoughts and prayers for your arm..

My middle daughter just finished her first week on Medifast and lost 5 pounds. She sent me an email about it and was so glad I got her started on MF. It is really going to help her get a handle on her whole life while she is getting control of her body. It is certainly making her a happier person. Of course, having two new roommates move in, one of whom is a best friend, hasn't hurt either! I can't wait till she comes home at Christmas so we can compare brand new bodies. And happily take family pictures...

answered May 01 at 09:52

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- my mom and I were just discussing it yesterday - this year our whole family has made an effort to get healthier and lose weight - and aren't finished yet..

We did a family photo with our families (my parents, myself, and both brothers and their families) at Christmas last year. At this point, we could take another picture and be 330 pounds lighter between all of us..

Looking forward to another photo this year - maybe it won't require a wide-angle lens!..

answered May 01 at 11:30

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Wow that's a lot of family weight loss and a great accomplishment for you all! Congratulations to you and your family!..

answered May 01 at 12:41

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So glad she's happy with the plan and it's working for her! That's great news. Less stress for you now..

Congrats on your 10%. Great milestone to accomplish too!..

answered May 01 at 13:10

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It does feel good. I have the first floor purged and just interviewed a clean lady to come in once a month and give it a top to bottom clean so that's a start. Once I purge the second floor, paint and put new carpet down in the staircase, I'll have her start cleaning upstairs too. When I get the cleaning lady in all the rooms, it's time to list the house...

answered May 01 at 13:59

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MT Cup.

- we're pleased with the progress so far - hopefully it'll continue and the family losses will be even greater by Christmas this year. Some are using MF, some not..

I was pondering the correlation between clutter and weight the other day. No conclusions yet..


- My surgery is scheduled for 9/17 to remove pins. Plates and screws will remain in the arm...

answered May 01 at 14:34

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Hi Shorties - I am back! First of all, the 5K run went really well. There were 177 participants and I came in 79th. My time was 31min 30sec, so I am pleased with that. The weather was very nice too! The few days at the Beach were lovely. Spent time with Mom, my Uncle and my sisters family came down for a day too. So, while I am back home, I am still on Vacation from work, trying to pack a bunch of things in.

DH and I have a wedding to go to on Saturday, so wanted nails to match toes..

I have to catch up on all the posts, so will do that soon. Hope everyone is doing well!..

answered May 01 at 15:02

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Gkrism - Good luck with the next surgery on 9/17. Sorry you have to go through that again, but hopefully you will be all healed by year end. Congrats on your continued success on Medifast and your family's success as well!.

Adrienne - A decluttered, cleaned and freshly painted house sounds lovely! It is a lot of work, but enjoy the results!.

Hello to Shelly and Morada, and all the other Shorties!..

answered May 01 at 15:15

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Welcome back, Marble! Wow you did great in the run, congratulations!.

Glad you're enjoying your time off so much. A massage sounds like the perfect way to spend your downtime. Enjoy the wedding!.

Interviewed a few cleaning ladies. Think I have one I can afford. We'll see what kind of job they do. Paint shopping tomorrow. TGIF everyone!..

answered May 01 at 15:19

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Happy Friday everyone..

Marble - congrats on the run. What a wonderful accomplishment. My daughter has been walking with me and recently she's been saying "lets jog for a minute - you can jog just as fast/slow as you're walking". And she's right! I can't believe I'm doing a bit of jogging (and not peeing my pants, IYKWIM). I would love to be able to simply.


A 5k!..

answered May 01 at 15:41

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Hi Friends,.

Ok, so this is one of those posts where I really just need support, friends in kind ... no criticizing ok?.

I've had a lot of stressful events on my plate recently, no more than anyone else... I'm not saying I'm any worse off than anyone else..and I'm not going to bore you with my whiny details.. however, I have been able to stay OP 100%, that I'm proud of.....

I'm just sort of feeling lost with the plan. I'm doing it but it feels like I'm going through the motions and feel "NOTHING" about being on it. No excitement, no motivation, no nothing.. I feel blank inside. My weight loss has really slowed (and YES, I am FOLLOWING the plan 100% and drinking all the water etc. I swear it) probably because of the PCOS which once my body realizes I'm dieting it just slows things down..

Not sure why but probably due to the low calories of this plan..

Have any of you felt this way?? What did you do to reenergize yourself with the plan and keep motivated to know that the goal is NOT impossible? I was SOOOO Motivated and if you look at my blogs most of the time you will see that, I do not know what happened. I know stress will make you gain weight, and I haven't gained at all, but there is just nothing I can do to change the situations right now. I have my moments. and I move on and function fine but with the diet, I don't know.. nothings there..

Anyway, just wanted to put it out there... maybe someome else felt that way at some point and has some tips. I'm on the plan almost 3 months as of Sept 14th..


answered May 01 at 16:56

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- I've been finding it helpful to read the Beck Diet Solution and reiterate why I want to lose the weight in the first place. Along with the other exercises from the book (not physical exercises). I agree that I seem to lose faster without physical exercise than with, although that may not be the best thing in the long run..


- I also have a question: My surgery this time is not until the afternoon, so after recovery, I'm likely not to be able to eat until around 6pm. Can't eat or drink anything except a sip of water for pain meds from midnight the night before. Any suggestions on whether I should "go off plan" on Thursday (day before the surgery) to eat more so that I'm not as weak as a newborn kitten on Friday, and/or ready to gnaw my own arm off (thereby removing the need for surgery in the first place)? And if I do go off plan, eat what? More leans, more greens, more Medifast meals or actually something with carbs and dairy?.

I'm really not trying to go off plan, and don't want to mess up my progress. The last surgery was in the morning, and I did stay on plan (just didn't get all of the Medifast meals in that day and only ate about 1/4 of the lean and green)..

I also put out the question to Nutrition Support...

answered May 01 at 17:08

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And big.

For you. Like gkrism, I used the exercises from the Beck Diet Solution book. The book gives you ways to reaffirm you desire to lose weight, stay on your plan and get to goal. The affirmation cards you build as part of the book's exercises are great reading when you're in the place you are. I've been there. Stress doesn't help, either but honestly you're having a great NSV staying on plan despite it all.

For me it was reading the cards I did and my weekly pictures showing me my progress. I just kept reminding myself of why I was doing it. I kept telling myself it didn't matter if I liked the food or not, it was what was good for me. I can't say much more. How we motivate ourselves can be highly individual..


, maybe that would be a good egg beaters day? Half at lunch and the other half later. or make it a 4&2 day? That would give you some extra food to help with recovery...

answered May 01 at 18:04

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I've felt "nothing" for a good 6 months or more. I just go through the motions. A bit boring, yes, but I don't think of it as a bad thing. To me, it means that food has become fuel for me. It is no longer comfort or stress relief or whatever. It's just basic nutrition for my body..

Do I miss the excitement of those first few months with the steady weightloss? You betcha, but I've accepted that that time is gone, probably never to return. I'm still motivated to lose the rest of this excess weight for both vanity and health reasons. I'm currently debating whether to continue with Medifast for the duration or switch to a supervised Mediterranean weightloss plan, but either way, I will get there...

answered May 01 at 18:57

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Shelly, I am hoping to get to where you are, believe it or not. I really really want to take away some of the special-ness of food. I want to stop celebrating with food and putting it up on this almost worshipful pedestal. Not that I want meals to become boring (and yes, Medifast is falling into the dull routine zone, but I'm good with that for now), but I want to take away equating a well-prepared meal with my personal self worth. Does that make any sense? When I get to a point where I eat because I need to fuel my body, not because I REALLY NEED A SNICKERS BAR TO KEEP BREATHING, then I'll be successful...

answered May 01 at 19:46

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Good point. We all need to get to the place where we're in control of the food, it's not on control of us. Until we do, we won't be able to succeed in keeping our weight off. Going through the holidays on Medifast last year taught me to see that the people were more important than the food. The food was there, but it was like the decorations in the house. Just an enhancement.

It will certainly make it easier to no over eat these holidays. Years past I would even eat the cookies and cakes which are things I don't like or normally eat. I think this year I'll have little issue staying on my plan. Yes, being bored with food helps a lot. It's so freeing not thinking about it constantly.

I really love this change in my thinking...

answered May 01 at 21:08

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So, it's official - I've now lost more than 20% of my original starting weight. That's another big milestone completed..

I did have a pretty frustrating day yesterday - not Medifast - but the whole arm thingy. They informed me AFTER my latest PT session, that the insurance wouldn't cover any more. I had asked them repeatedly to tell me how many sessions it would cover - they told me a $ amount, but never clarified how many sessions. So I've used them all up - I could have saved some for later!.

So, now I've got another surgery next week, and no more PT unless I fork over $100 a time! When the office person snidely told me - you should talk to your HR dept (um, I'm self-employed, so that would be me), you should get better insurance (duh, I'm trying to lose weight so I can, and that's why I was biking and shattered the arm in the first place, and no insurance company is going to touch me until this is fully healed), I felt like wringing her neck with my 79-pound-gripping right hand and supplementing with my 25-pound-gripping left hand!.


answered May 01 at 21:34

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Hey all,.

My fall semester has started and I am enrolled in 5 classes. Very excited about being back in school (NERDS RULE.

You have all been very busy:.

MT CUPI think your wondering about the connection between clutter and clarity is intriguing. As you know, "feng shui" is an approach utilized by many to enhance the energy flow of their surroundings. To this end, the Chinese people, historically, believe if the flow is imepeded (physically with too much stuff, psychologically with too much on the mind, spiritually with too much non-earthly concerns) one's energy will not be able to flow smoothly. I swear I was a minimalist in a past lifea monk to be very precise. I think this explains my happy feelings when I purge and dump useless pieces of paper, books, donate clothes clothes that have become too big..

Kgrism-So sorry to hear you are having trouble with the med folks. They can really be a pain. The bottom line is you just want to be back to your old self. Why can't they just make that happen without hassling you to death? In the meantiume, YAHOO for 20% fat/weight loss markers!.

Marble-Well done on the run! 79th is grandbut even if you came in 117, YOU DID IT! In Shortie land, YOU CAME IN FIRST BECAUSE YOU DID YOUR BEST! Everyone agree?.

Hmm, the BMI thing is tricky. It does not take into consideration inter/intraracial/ethnic group differences. Rather, it is an average based on the majority (Caucasian/Black) body types. While the resulting ranges can be helpful as general guidelines, the reality is that each of us is different, and given our % muscle mass etc, we need to adjust. In the end, Medifast counselors tell us that we will know when we have achieved our comfortable "weight.".

Finally, the excitement about food topic also merits a commnent. There are some days that I get really stoked that I can enjoy my S'more bar after dinner. Then, there are other days I nearly overlook having it because I am busy, tired, or bored. I agree that after having been OP for nearly 6 months, one does seem to reach a state where the food becomes more of fuel than reason to celebrate..

Still on stage 1 of T & M. Will weigh in on Monday. Last weigh in I was at 100.4. Learning so much about myself and the impending changes in this next Medifast phase..

Hope the rest of the new, veteran, and lurking Shorties are well. I am enjoying a beautiful fall weekend here!.

Happy Saturday, Shorties...

answered May 01 at 21:51

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Thank you for all of the suggestions. I will get the Beck Diet Solution book and see if it helps! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one going through this and maybe it is just that I'm getting used to it and now use the food as fuel and not something I'm dying to have like before. SO, that can be a NSV of sorts now can't it?? Today was my little one's 5th birthday and we had a huge party for her with all of her friends and my favorite foods. Happy to report aside from 1/2 of a wine cooler, I stayed 100% on plan and didn't get tempted or waiver once!! That was a biggie for me!.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend!!..

answered May 01 at 22:37

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Hi Shorties!.

Yea - good to have.


Back! Good luck with the classes - 5 sounds like a lot!.


- I am in HR, and I know insurance is a pain in the a**. It doesn't help when the Drs. office has an attitude too..

Hello to Adrienne, sunflower, Morada, and Shelly! Hope everyone is having a great weekend..

DH and I went to a wedding yesterday, and here we are (hopefully picture attached), DH has lost 135 pounds and me a total of 70 (10 before MF). October 1 is our One Year Medifast anniversary!.

Everyone have a great rest of the weekend!..

answered May 02 at 00:08

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WHAT A HANDSOME COUPLE!!!!! (Though this is the convention, I always thought it was a bit sexist; what about "WHAT A GORGEOUS AND HEALTHY COUPLE?").

Imagine losing so much between the two of you 205 lbs. Perhaps even more important are the new habits and mindsets that result from such significant losses. Your commitment inspires us to be our best selves: physically, mentally, and "spiritually" (not a religious refernce, but more of an overall balance and harmony -with-the-universe reference)..

Speaking of which, I am reading "Women, Food, and God" (Genene Roth, 2010). This was an Oprah book club discussion from 2 weeks ago. I thought Ms. Roth was very grounded and thoughtful in her commentary. Some of her discussion points bear repeatingessentially stay in the "NOW." If you are in the midst of joy, sorrow, struggle, she wants us to recognize the experience, don't resist it, and know that a new experience with follow shortly thereafter. Very Buddhist in outlook, and so important to remember.

A very inspirational book, though parts of her text are a little vague. I suspect she did this on purpose; may be a way to have readers "fill-in" the blanks with their own experiences and/or to facilitate readers' deeper thinking..

Enjoyed a killer spin class today. Feeliing like I can conqueer the world or at least a few homework assignments..

Hapy Sunday Shorties. Staying in the "NOW" and sucking "it" up because I.


A princess..

answered May 02 at 00:31

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- you look great!.

I had a pretty neat NSV today at church. I was wearing that "killer" dress that I haven't been able to wear for 12 years or more. And one of the guys who (bless his heart) has no filters whatsoever, yelled to me from across the patio - WOW you look HOT!.

Everyone else was much more restrained, but I did get a lot of compliments. And I was glad to just be able to say "thank you" rather than feeling compelled to deflect with "thank you, but I still have a long ways to go." Kind of what.


Is talking about - celebrating the NOW of where I'm at...

answered May 02 at 01:14

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Welcome to all the newer Shorties and a big hello to the veteran Shorties!.

Marble, ditto what Woozy said - you guys are indeed a handsome couple..

Congratulations Woozy on making goal..

Gkrism, bummer about the wrist not mending as it should but congrats on the NSV..

I've been MIA and I don't know why. I was super busy at work for a number of weeks and now the jewish holidays are upon us and the dog ate my homework...After all is said and done, I'm up 5 lbs and feel absolutely miserable. Good thing Adrienne sent me a poke. Back OP today!.

DD is doing remarkably well. Since she came home from school in May, she's lost 16 lbs on her own by just cutting down here and there. I make sure not to have snacks that she likes in the house. She's been very happy, doing well in school and got a job at the local AC Moore. (For those of you not in the know, AC Moore is a local chain of craft stores like Michaels) She was supposed to work between 15-20 hours a week but they have her working over 30! It's not a problem as long as it doesn't interfere with school work. If it does, she'll need to cut her hours.

DS started senior year and I have a dilemma: what to do about college. I keep hoping he'll wake up one day miraculously a mature young man but it hasn't happened yet. So I think community college is in his future. He could commute to a local university in Philadelphia but it would cost 7X as much as community college. The real issue is do I make him fill out applications anyway or do we just drop the whole college entrance experience? I guess I really need to taik to his guidance counselor but it has been my experience that they really don't 'guide'. Anyone have any advice? Anyone know any college counselors?..

answered May 02 at 01:24

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Grace I actually encouraged DS3 to take a year off and work, before tackling community college. Just finishing high school was such a huge thing with him, he needed to decompress and get into the 'real world' for a bit. The year turned into about 30 months, but he is doing well at the community college, and in the meantime, found a job he loves, that may wind up leading to a career. Every kid is different, and some have a harder journey, just because that's who they are. Talk with the high school counselor, talk with the community college, especially the career counselor, and talk with your son. He will eventually land on his feet!..

answered May 02 at 01:45

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Hey everyone. Quiet Monday so time to be here to catch up..

Hi to all my fellow shorties, present, absent and lurking..


First, congratulation on your milestone loss! Woot! So sorry to hear about the PT thing. Horrid people!.

Woohoo for your NSV with the dress! Nothing feels better than having someone tell you you look hot..

Glad you could celebrate that win and put it in perspective..


, I am a bit of a feng shui fan. The colors I have painted the walls in specific rooms are based on those principles. I've always been attracted to that idea that uncluttered physical life meant uncluttered mind. I've always craved simplisity in my living arrangements, but I have heredity against me. I fight it all the time. I'm not as bad as the people you see on TV but I could so easily go there if I'm not diligent.

Sounds like you're doing well..


, how are you getting on? Any better?.


, you are the cutest couple! You guys look fantastic. What a wonderful weight loss story you two have to tell. I can't wait to read your success stories when you guys post them!.


! You're back, we've missed you so..

I remember you said work was busy but that didn't account for you missing for so long. Woohoo on the children news! Sounds like they are both doing very well. As for DS's dilemma, go with your gut feeling and talk to DS. Maybe he will even need to take a year off to work and get some perspective. It's a difficult time and every child is different. Sorry can't help with a counselor..



Great words for Grace! Thanks for stopping in and sharing..

So today is officially day one of maintenance for me. I'm down the pound I gained, so I need to work harder at keeping my calories up, especially now that belly dance has picked up and all the stairs I'm running purging the house. Going to wait and see what happens this week.If I'm down more, I'll up my calories a little. I am weighing and measuring everything. No hunger and feel totally in control. Working out soups and stews now for the colder months to come...

answered May 02 at 02:07

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We encouraged all three DD to apply to at least two universities. They all got into their first choice, but DD2&3 decided to do the community college route first. Neither had no idea what to major in and taking "maybe this for a major" classes were cheaper at the local community college. DD1 went away to university for one year, had a horrid experience (migraines and wrecked her knee) so she came home, did 3 semesters at the CC, found a major went back to her university and is now in her masters program..

What we learned through the high school experience is that high school does a lousy job of preparing kids for life. Their big focus is "get into college". They don't care what you DO in college, just get there because it looks good for them. We watched our very intelligent girls and most of their friends go to college and then ask "now what do I do with my life? How do I decide what I want to do to make $$?". Very few seniors KNOW what their life's work is going to be..

So my advice would be apply - it's a good experience and who knows what will happen. But plan on the local CC, it is an easy step from high school to university life...

answered May 02 at 02:20

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Thanks for all the advice, everyone. In NJ, where we live, all the universities are obligated to take all college credits from the community colleges, so, that's a plus. As for him working, I think it would be difficult for him to go back to school after being out of it for a long time, so I don't think working for a year or so would be an option for him. He was only out of school for the summer and he's having trouble getting into gear. However, a part time job would be a good option...

answered May 02 at 03:18

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Ever heard of the book "What Color is Your Parachute?" It's a great book for helping you figure out what sort of careers might interest you, and the book is now available in a teen version. It might be worth looking at...

answered May 02 at 03:54

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Great idea, Shelly. I'll have to get a copy..

The local community college will give some sort of test that will result in what types of careers would suit you but you need to be enrolled at the college first. Through the miracle of computers, they figure out based on your likes and dislikes of various things (including if you prefer to work in groups) and it spits out jobs that would suit your personality..

BTW, I like the Percentage Posse's banner this season. Scary...

answered May 02 at 04:04

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That test is probably the Myers-Briggs personality test. Pretty standard on just about every college campus. I think you can take it online, too...

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Hi Everyone,.

Hope you're having a great week on plan! Oh the things to look forward to with my DS who is a sophomore in HS as far as colleges go!! I hear ya Fistooki!!! I'm hoping he continues to be interested in computers and wants to actually go to college.. Luckily, I have about another year before he has to start looking at schools... does not sound like fun! I'm in NJ too so it was interesting to learn they have to take the community college credits, I had no clue..

MT Cup, well, yeah, I guess I'm doing a little better. Still do not feel the motivation or energized feeling I did for the first 2 months, but I am losing... albeit SLOWLY OMG SO SLOWLY... but I was down this week 1.4 so I'll take it.... I'm only 1.5 lbs away from losing 30 lbs, so that's not too awful in 3 months right? A lot of people are starting to take notice, so I'll take it.. just wish I could feel motivated agian like I did...

I am staying on plan and haven't even thought of cheating at all, even with my daughter's big bday party this past weekend. We had all of my favorite foods and it all looked so good, but I went about my hostess routine and didn't even so much as sample anything....not a thing! So I guess that in and of itself is progress right? Little NSVs..

Marble.. you guys look great!! Congrats to both of you! I'm in HR also.. we'll have to chat on day!1.

Woozy, congratulations on making goal!! How wonderful!!!.

Hope everyone is doing well, welcome to any of the newbies!..

answered May 02 at 06:35

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Sunflower if it's any consolation, that feeling, if you keep it? I'm having a hard time making sure I eat enough. I dropped back down to 104 again which is my very bottom number. So I find it interesting that before Medifast I could look at food and gain weight. Now I can't seem to gain enough or keep it on. So look at this way... it can be a good thing. Especially around the holidays...

answered May 02 at 08:01

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MT Cup.... YES, I'm having the same problem and I'm not even near goal yet!!! Especially when work and life get so crazy, I often feel like... it can't be possible that I have 2 more Medifast meals to eat!! I do it, but I feel so full... today is one of those days! I could only wish for a day where I couldn't gain weight! I can't even imagine what that must be like!!! I can hear about food, smell it, just look at it or watch someone else eat it and the pounds pack on! LOL One step at a time right?..

answered May 02 at 08:02

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- nearly 30 pounds in 3 months? That's awesome progress for a Shortie! And even if I mis-read your post, and it's been longer than 3 months, the point is you are down by nearly 30 pounds - that's great!.

And congratulations on not being tempted for other foods - yes that is a NSV right there!.

I will admit, though, right after I blogged about having more Medifast meals and no hunger ... I was hungry for 3 days! So, I don't think I'll be saying that much any more.

I've been hungry some today - but that's because I got busy, and then had clients in past the 3 hour mark - and my body let me know about it!..

answered May 02 at 09:00

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Good morning Shorties!.

I am enjoying a beautiful Tuesday here. Have not yet snuck out for my run, but will figure out some time for it, very soon..

Happy to report that yesterday's weigh-in had me at a little below goal weightI guess this T & M thing is learning how to play with the "new" foods while still balancing all the other aspects of the program. Coupled with my learning curve about food-related feelings, this is really getting complicated, and simple. (Sounds oxymoronic, no? Sort of the yin/yang of all experiences)..

Okay, so this week I am supposed to add 1/2 cup fruit. I was not a fruit person before I started MFI don't HATE them, but I just never really thought about fruit the way others seems to NEED them in their lives. I could live the rest of my life and never eat fruit again, and I would be happy. On the other hand, I can eat veggies until the cows come home! (Hey, maybe I was a cow in a past life? The whole grass, cud, veggie thing?) Sometimes I got little mouth sores from eating fruits (e.g., organges pineapples, even raw tomatoesyes, they are considered a fruit because they have seeds..) I guess I shied away from fruits because of this negative physical reaction..

My counselor says to "try" some less acidic fruits, so I will timidly step into the world of fruits. To be clear, I am all for the variety of tastes, but have become (un)consciously wary due to past adverse reactions. I will report as they week goes on. If it gets really painful, I will eat cucumbers, bell peppers, zuchinni (they all have seeds) and just "count" them as my fruits. What do you guys think?.

Otherwise, nothing else to report. Just having a mellow morning..

Happy Tuesday Shorties...

answered May 02 at 10:19

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- good luck with introducing fruit. I like fruit, much more than veggies. I could (and did before MF) eat an apple a day - especially the gala apples..

I also have to admit that some of my "staple" greens for L&G are cucumbers and sweet peppers. But I looked and per MF, they are considered veggies, thankfully!.


- I think I reached the 40 pound mark today. Of course, my official weigh-in day is Saturday - and I'll have surgery on Friday (with IV fluids, and pain meds), so it may not "stick" but when I go in for my pre-op appointment tomorrow, I'll be 20 pounds lighter than I was 2 months ago, and 40 pounds lighter than I was just over 4 months ago..

Yes, this plan really is working..

Oh, and by the way,.

MT Cup.

- thanks for your practical suggestion on eating another L&G on Thursday (or going 4&2) - Nutritional Support just waffled and said talk to the doctor... and then that I might do more liquids after the surgery...

answered May 02 at 11:58

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I don't know anything about T&M, haven't gotten there yet. But I imagine there is a reason they want you to add fruit, not things that are classified as vegetables on this program. There are so MANY kinds of fruit, literally every size, shape, and color. I'm sure you can find something that appeals to you. Have you tried making smoothies with frozen bananas? Go to the produce stand and pick something you've never had before. You might be surprised!..

answered May 02 at 12:08

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, you're rocking the plan. Just keep going!.


, you need fruit to keep the GI system running as well as balancing your vitamins and minerals. You won't have Medifast foods to do that for you in the long run. Now it seems your issue is with citric acid, not with fruit. I agree with your counselor, try things like berries, apples, pears and bananas. Maybe some cantaloupe or other melon. These are your least acidic fruits but still give you the benefits.

You might find it will work out if you stay way from citrus fruits..

I know it's peach and plum season but they might not be good choices for you. Local apples are just starting to come in. They're a good starting point..


, the "talk to your doctor" is something they have to say in our wonderful litigious world today. I really thing the extra meal will "set you up" which is what you were looking for. You might slightly go over your carbs that day, but it's only 1 day. I agree with the boost your water idea afterward. This will help flush the anesthesia out of your system..


, welcome back! You make a very good point. The key thing is there is structure to T&M just like there is to 5&1. We need to stay on the plan if we want to be successful. Now that we know our tastes and our bodies have changed, so might our reaction to certain foods. I love your challenge to try something new...

answered May 02 at 12:44

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Howdy Shorties!.

It is good to see.

Grace, Kerry, Donna, Adrienne, Shelly, Sunflower, gkrism and woozy.

All touching base!.


- 30 pounds in 3 months is great! It will probably slow down, but those are still great numbers!.


- yea on the 40 pounds! Yes, don't let the fluids/soduim of the surgery freak you out and do listen to your body and Dr. during this time. If it needs more to heal then give it more!.

Sunflower and Adrienne.

- you two have lost me with the "too much to eat".

, I am having a week where I am counting the minutes to 2 and 1/2 to 3 hours between meals..

AFM, I actually started back to 100% 5&1 on Saturday, so still getting through those first 3 - 5 days. DH will be starting transition on 10/1, and I thought I'd ride out the last few weeks with him - finishing together what we started together, and then T&M together. Does anyone here watch The Biggest Loser? That is the one Reality Show that I am glued to each season. Anyway...the new season starts next week (I started another thread on TBL Season 10 on the Announcements & Off-Topic page). There is bio information on nbc.com about the new contestants - and I was shocked how many of them have had lap-band, and even full gastric bypass, and yet they are still significantly overweight, enough to get on TBL. My sister had lap-band surgery, and she too has gained back most of her weight she lost with that.

I know my sister talks about a "fill" and for some reason they took her "fill" out, so it is like she didn't have surgery now. IDK, it all sounds too dangerous and complicated to me, I am just glad I found MF!..

answered May 02 at 13:30

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Woozy - I'm with gkrism, APPLES! We have six small apple trees in our backyard, but I still prefer the galas from the store. Or honeycrisp, when we can get them. I don't react as strongly as you to citrus fruit, but I definitely am sensitive. I can eat maybe one tangerine and that's it. I like the list MT gave you, especially bananas and plums, and might add grapes..

I'm in week 8 or 9 of 5/1 and have been crazy hungry the last week or so. I'm drinking my water, but I am also watching the clock like a hawk, anticipating my next meal. I hope this is just a phase and passes soon...

answered May 02 at 14:04

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, nice to see you! How's it going with your daughter on MF? Still going well I hope. Hope the rest of the family is doing well too..

Not to contradict you, Morada, but I would suggest staying away from grapes for two reasons. One they absorb pesticides. To the point I can't give them to my parrot, they could make him ill or kill him. Not a good choice. The second is they are very sugary and can trigger people. I rarely touch them any more and never at home where the parrot can see me (he's monkey see monkey want too!)..

Galas and honeycrisp are my favorites too. Yum. Fujis come next but they tend to be mealy in texture, not crisp like the galas and honeys..


, that's so sweet that you two are doing all the phases together. What a great way to do things...

answered May 02 at 15:25

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A person who's had lapband or other stomach reducing surgery can absolutely stretch out what stomach they have left and pack on the pounds. Gastric surgery is definitely NOT the miracle cure for obesity that everyone thinks it is. Without a major lifestyle change, all the surgery in the world won't help..


I made up a recipe for an Italian style veggie soup that's rather tasty, if I do say so myself. If you'd like me to PM the recipe to you, let me know. I could live off soup and stew all winter myself. Sorry ladies. It's not OP for those of us still on 5&1...

answered May 02 at 15:31

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I have to admit, I am not much of a grape person, however, I love raisins. They go best in an oatmeal cookie or a bran muffin! (yeah, I need to add 1/3 of my Green to lunch to see if I can stop thinking about food all afternoon!).

DD2 is doing AWESOME. I put up a photo of the two of us on the USS Midway from last spring. When she comes home in Dec, we are going back and having what should be our "after" photo. Plus, we love being on the Midway. Her fav dish has been turning the COB soup into "chips", crumbling them and using that as coating for baked chicken. That's my girl.

She said that her life was usually grumble grumble grumble Happy Moment grumble grumble...... But being on MF, life has been one perky moment after another. "I've found the cure for the depression I've felt since 8th grade", she said. (she'll be 24 in Dec) I had a good cry over that one. My sweet, artistic, romantic, musical daughter is getting her life together.


Oh, and she lost 5 pounds her first week!..

answered May 02 at 16:54

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Hi Everyone,.

Hope the week is going well! Yes MT Cup, you read my post correctly, almost 30 lbs in 3 months. Today actually marks 3 months that I am on the plan. Oh Woozy, say it isn't so!! I can't have the weight loss slow down.. it feels soooo sllllooooowwww now! LOL.

No slow downs!!!.

Gkrsim I hope all goes well with your surgery!!!..

answered May 02 at 17:56

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Hey Fellow Shorties-.

Sorry I have been MIA, I started talking in other groups and now I can't keep up with all of them! I hope you're all doing well. I just finished my 4th week on Medifast and lost a total of 14lbs!! So close to the 100's!!..

answered May 02 at 18:03

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Oh yes please! I'm always looking for soup and stew ideas! I love stuff I can throw in the crock pot and just eat when my work day is over...

answered May 02 at 19:19

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Morning Shorties!.


, so glad to hear DD2 is doing so well! This is always great news. I'll have to check out the pictures. Yes, if you're having an "Oliver day" (all you can think of is food, wonderful food), break up your L&G..


, it took me 10 months to lose what you lost in 3 months. Can I tell you how jealous I am?.


! Nice to see you. You are doing so well, this is exciting!.

Work is calling, off to the trenches. Later all!..

answered May 02 at 20:52

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I sent you the soup recipe and a chili recipe. Both freeze very well. I've never made the veggie soup in the crock pot, but I would assume that it work just fine...

answered May 02 at 22:24

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Hi Everyone!.

Donna - WTG for your daughter's loss on her first week. My daughter is not on Medifast but the change in her from losing weight is just amazing. She's actually stopping and talking to other students now. (I know that seems like "what's the big deal?" but before that she could go an entire day without speaking to anyone.) She ran into someone who was in her senior homeroom class the other day and spoke with him. I suggested that the next time they run into each other she ask for his phone or to friend him on facebook so that maybe they can do something together. She needs to find friends to socialize with since her girlfriends are all away at school now.

I'm doing OK. Over the headache now but not particularly hungry. I realize that I did not eat breakfast today so I better eat something even though I don't want it..

Have a great day, all...

answered May 02 at 23:18

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Hello again Shorties! Hope everyone is having a great week!.


- yea for DD2!.


- good to see you, and congrats on 14 pounds in 4 weeks - WOW!.


- thinking about you with tomorrow's surgery - good luck!.

Hello to.

Shelly, Sunflower, Adrienne and Grace.


My 100% OPness (if that is a word) is working (duh, of course it is)! We have two scales at home, and this morning one said 135.6 and the other 136.5 - so I averaged them out to 136 today! 1 pound to goal! Also, I am finally past being hungry all the time, in fact today I had my caramel crunch bar and coffee at 9ish, and just looked at the clock at 12:15 and was like - oh my - I have to eat! It helps that things have been busy at work today too..

Well, lunch break is over - check with you all later!..

answered May 03 at 00:40

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Can I bother you for those 2 receipes? I need some variety...

answered May 03 at 02:10

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Woo Hoo!! Congrats on being sooooo close to goal! That's so exciting!..

answered May 03 at 02:42

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Any chance of getting my sister shorties to join in a little fun? I've started a thread here:.

Just post a picture of a bra, you don't have to say anything. It's just for fun...

answered May 03 at 03:52

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MT - When I get home and can pull up pictures, I'll give it a shot. I may do the before/after thing (what I have vs what I'm hoping to be in maintenance). What a giggle...

answered May 03 at 04:55

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Hi all, I introduced myself in the 33-99lb weight loss range, but I wanted to see about "joining" here. I'm 5'2 (and three quarters!). I get my medifast tomorrow and have tried to prepare myself as much as possible but I'm sure it's still going to be a shock. I look forward to talking to you all as I start this journey and just want to give an *applause* for all the hard work you've all accomplished already..


answered May 03 at 05:41

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Hello and welcome echosiren! The first week is the roughest and if you can get past that, you'll be fine. There's support here when you need it. We provide hugs and whippings as requested..

Best of success to you!..

answered May 03 at 05:52

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Well, my surgery has been moved up from 2:20 pm (check in at 12:20 pm) to 9:50 am (check in at 7:50 am). So all my agonizing about what to eat the day before (whether to eat more, and if so what?) was for naught!.



For the good wishes! I'm going to remind the surgeon that he said he wanted me to have the "best result that is medically possible" before the surgery. I've been told that he won't let me watch, so I'd rather be asleep than staring at ceiling tiles..



! The plan works, if you work the plan..

Today, finally, one of my clients said - you've lost a lot of weight, haven't you? I gave her a hug, and thanked her for being the first to notice, and say something to me..

A couple of months ago, I was at Kohl's and found a black pencil skirt in a 12, and the same one in a 10, both on clearance. So I bought both of them, even though I was still in 16s at the time. I have been wearing the 12, but today, it looked pretty baggy, so I pulled out the 10 - it's even just a smidgeon loose!.

But I don't own any "single digit" clothes, so... hmmm... what to do?..

answered May 03 at 05:57

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, Egg beaters? boca burger (a little more carb with the protein?) Sorry I think this gets to you too late..

Hope the surgery goes well this morning and you're not as wiped out as the last time..

Nice NSV with the skirt! Woot!.

Hi Mel and all the shorties lurking or still sleeping...

answered May 03 at 06:05

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I'll send you the recipes, but please note that.

They are NOT OP.


answered May 03 at 06:45

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Ditto on the skirt NSV and wishing a speedy surgical recovery..

Let's see, the fruit saga contiinues for yours truly. So I have ventured into watermelon land. Sweet, yummy and not too acidic. No mouth sores so far. In further seeking how to address my non-fruit leanings, I ran across the following paragraph and thought it said quite a bit in a teensy space:.

Cultural Signifigance.

Culturally, the definition of fruits and vegetables become confusing. Most fruits are categorized as sweet and are eaten as a snack or dessert, while vegetables accompany the main part of a meal. Some fruits are categorized as vegetables, most notably the tomato, not for the technical definition but for how it is perceived in society..

Read more: Definition of Fruit Vs. Vegetable | eHow.com.


So, I do not mean to be obstinate or pig-headed, but I thought this was worth consideringthe different ways we define foods culturally/ethnically/racially/socio-economically/gendered ways..

Returning to an earlier discussion about BMI, we know Medifast uses "generic" (the standard Metropolitan Life?) height/weight charts to suggest "healthy" ranges while embarking on this Medifast life-change. These charts are based on an average of heights/weights of the majority (White, male/female, middleclass/working class) populations. And yet, we know that as Shorties, we are not "average." Given my ethnic background, I am even smaller- framed than average (refer back to the Joslin height/weight charts for Asians and Pacific Islanders sponsored by Harvard University). So, the fact that some of us are even smaller in stature, can mean the numbers Medifast uses for it's suggerstions can be misleading. According to their numbers, I was well within the "healthy" range pre-MF (121 lbs/5 ft. tall).

Were quite possibly pre-diabetic symptoms that went otherwise diagnosed because I was deemed "healthy.".

Similarly, the notion of eating "fruit" is something I am still ponderingmore from a theoretical point of view. I did not grow up eating a lot of fruit. What we ate was mostly the less expensive fruits that were common in grocery stores in the 1960s to late 1970s( apples, oranges, grapes, canned pineapple, and occasionally fruit cocktail, cherries, watermelons when my parents had a little "extra" money.) Though I did not hate eating fruit (the same cannot be said for LIVERYUCKO!) I was never as excited about fruit as my siblings or many people that I know. Coupled with the sometimes adverse mouth sores that resulted from consuming some furits, I really did not have an incentive to persevere in my fruit explorations..

Like the BMI chart ranges, I wonder if any MF-ers have ever addressed the fact that the Medifast L & G part of the diet assumes folks are eating a middleclass/upper class, White cultural diet? How might that play out for the increasing diversity found within our country? Around the world?.

While I realize "fruits" (as defined by the Western nutritional diet) may have some particular vitamins, minerals, these nutrients are not unique to those fruits. For example, tomatoes and broccoli are high in Vit C (yet we often equate many "fruits"e.g., orangesnot vegetables with this vitamin.) Tomatoes have lypocene which is more easily digested when this "fruit" is cooked, not raw. How many other fruits have lypocene? Why can't I count brocoli instead of another "furit" if the real goal is to get Vit C?.

In the end, I think that if we are really going to be our best and healthiest selves, we must think about the notion of diet as based on some generalized guide lines, but then tweak our deits to address metabolic changes over time and resulting health status (genetic, age-related, gender, racial/ethnic). No longer will wholesale recommendations be as useful, for they do not take into consideration the various ways our bodies are fluid, dynamic entities. I like the idea of diet as connected with idividuals' DNA/nurtitional needs..

Hmm, more to query as they weekend goes on..

Anyway, thanks for letting me think aloud..

Happy Friday Shorties!..

answered May 03 at 07:36

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Hi Everyone!.

Gkrism congrats on the NSV and being in your size 10 skirt, a pencil skirt no less!! That's great!! Single digit clothes are right around the corner! Good luck on the surgery as well! Hope all goes well!.

Welcome Echosiren! Once you get past the first few days, it will be a very easy plan to follow overall and the benefits are seen quickly if you follow it and stay on plan! Good Luck!!.

I have a small victory this week as well!! I have officially completed 3 months OP and have lost a total of 30 lbs!! I'm so thrilled to have 30 lbs gone forever!! 7.5 more lbs to lose and I'll be half way there to goal..

Hope everyone is ready for the weekend and has a great one!..

answered May 03 at 07:59

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Congrats mysunflower! 30 lbs is significant. Equally impressive is knowing that your are 50% to goal. Have a well-deserved, rest-filled fall weekend...

answered May 03 at 08:51

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Surgery was successful. Removed pins, plates and screws from the upper side of the arm, but left in the plates and screws from the lower side of the arm. I was awake during most of it. Still have a very floppy and numb appendage at this point, but some movement and sensation is returning to my fingers, along with some pain from the incision. He let me see the incision before he sewed it up, and how he could supinate and pronate the arm without hindrance, after the bandage was in place. Apparently (unlike my chatty self right now), I didn't have enough of a motor-mouth during surgery that he wanted me more asleep!.

I'm hoping that this recovery will be much less painful and much quicker. I'm already feeling 1000 times better than after the last one..

I stayed OP yesterday (no extras), and post-surgery, I've had 4 glasses of water, one Ready-to-drink, one bar, and the pretzels. Ok,.

MT Cup.

, I've also had one diet coke even though I haven't finished all of the waters..

Back to typing one-handed..


Congrats! Sounds like you are tracking the same pace as me with the same goal losses...

answered May 03 at 09:04

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Woozy, the object of the fruit is more to have good sugars in your system to help keep your blood sugar even than it is the vitamin C. Most of the fruits I eat are not eaten for their Vit C content. Fruit is a healthy sugar/sweet and can help deflect the cravings for sweets as we remove the ever so sweet Medifast foods from our diet. There are other vitamin and mineral considerations there too, but I believe that's the primary reason..

Gkrism, I'm glad the surgery went well and hey, you deserved that soda..

I hope this is a quick recovery for you..

Hello and big hugs to everyone else. I'm off to bed before I break the keyboard by mashing my forehead into it...

answered May 03 at 09:52

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Officially down one pound this week. So glad that the recovery so far from yesterday's surgery is so much less traumatic than the one from a couple of months ago..

I've got pain, and even severe pain, but not excruciating pain. I can already move my fingers (which have puffed back up to little sausages) and this time they wrapped the hand in such a way that I still have an opposable thumb!.

My hand, fingers, fingernails and arm to just past the elbow once again look like I used a bad spray-on tan from the 80's. Kind of sickly orange..

Oh well, I hope you have a great OP weekend!..

answered May 03 at 10:45

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Happy Sunday Shorties!.


- glad to hear the surgery is behind you and you are on the road to recovery! And still lost a pound - woo hoo!.


- congrats on the 30 pounds and being close to 1/2 way!.

Woozy and Adrienne.

- thanks as always for your research and insights into food, health and well being!.

So, we have two scales at home, "mine" which is what I used when I started Medifast and got my original start weight of 200 on, and the one DH bought when he started. the DH scale has pretty consistantly weighed us at 1/2 to 1 pound less than my scale. Today, the DH scale first said 134.2! then it said 134.6. I went to my scale and it said 135.5. Back to DH scale and it said 135. No wonder we are all so stressed out by the scale! So, I am just going with my scale for now on, since that is what I started with, so I am saying 1/2 pound now until GOAL!.

Everyone have a great Sunday!..

answered May 03 at 12:04

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Gkrism, I'm sorry you have so much pain but really happy for your continue improvement..

Marble, congratulations on getting so close to your goal. You'll do fine in transition...

answered May 03 at 13:23

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Gkrism - huzzah for using fingers and an easier recovery. Praying that everything goes better than hoped for..

Marble - Ahhhhhhhh - only half a pound?.

That is awesome. I would be on the scale like every hour just waiting to see that magic number..

I'm starting to notice some NSVs - like my XL shirts being a little loose, the bra not hooking tight enough. I noticed this morning that a skirt that I haven't worn for over 18 months fits. I was going to wear it to church this morning, but I don't have a shirt that will go with it. Hmmm. Maybe this afternoon I should get out the box of "save these till I'm thinner" clothes. But still not enough gone to fit into the next size jeans. I must be losing from the top down..

answered May 03 at 14:52

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Betadine is such a lovely, flattering color, isn't it?.

Woo Hoo Marble!!! Almost there, almost there!!..

answered May 03 at 14:57

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- yes, if I wear black, then the orange from the arm will make it look sort of like Hallowe'en! But over a month early..


- I'm with you - I try not to weigh daily (or at least not pay much attention), but 1/2 pound - yea, it would be tough not to! Congrats on your NSV - yes, pull out that box - If you don't you will fly right past them and not be able to wear them again..


- congratulations on being so close. In the past my comment would be "you are so close you can almost taste it" but I suppose that's not politically correct in the Medifast world. And I totally get you about the differences in the scales and even the same scale. I have two (the one I started with) and the new one. The new one is consistently lower than the old one, but the old one gives me some spice - it varies by 1-2 pounds every other minute!.


- I'm feeling so much better that I'm going to church this morning. My SIL will be picking me up - so I need to grab a trash bag (arm covering) and take a shower and get ready. I'm still taking the pain meds (so no driving today), but I think I'll wean off of them before the weekend is over...

answered May 03 at 15:08

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Morning Shortie Sisters!.

Checking in before I head out for my weekly WI. I don't know how "good" a WI it will be because I have struggled getting in all my water and had zero days walking, etc. The water can be hard when I know I'm going to be on a long drive or in a long meeting and getting to the bathroom is going to be difficult. But I am working on that. (and I am amazed at how much my bladder can hold!).

Laura, my DD2 who is on MF, reported in after Week 2 WI and she has lost 10#, the show off. It took me 3 weeks! But she does alot of walking around her university, most of it uphill. I am so thrilled for her, because I know how happy this is making her..

Off to start a 100% OP week!..

answered May 03 at 16:09

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